About the show

Tentative is a podcast about digital product design.
Hosted by thoughtbot's Chief Design Officer Kyle Fiedler & Boston Design Director Jaclyn Perrone.

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  • 63: Solutionland™️

    January 9th, 2019  |  29 mins 33 secs

    Jaclyn sells some art, kicks off a giant design sprint, and prepares a presentation on how to co-facilitate a design sprint. Kyle deals with new-office echoes & internet woes. We share the projects that we worked on for this year's Ralphapalooza; plus, reactions on designing for React Native.

  • 62: Down With Portfolios

    December 13th, 2018  |  31 mins 3 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle discuss the value of in-person meetings, the philosophy of Trello backgrounds, nostalgia for antiquated recording mediums, refining thoughtbot's designer hiring process, and design implementation.

  • 61: Zebras Drinking Mint Juleps

    November 29th, 2018  |  33 mins 21 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle chat about the new thoughtbot Austin office, designing for Android, feelings on maintaining Sketch file tidiness, trying to make tabular data exciting to present, and commiserate over call-center software workflows.

  • 60: Mimosas on a Tuesday

    November 8th, 2018  |  32 mins 32 secs

    Jaclyn wraps up a project to hand off to a client's design team, Kyle looses his voice after giving a design sprint presentation, plus personal habits to pursue before speaking engagements or while in Product Design Sprints, design patterns in children's apps, and screen-time controls in iOS.


    October 25th, 2018  |  25 mins 26 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle discuss prototyping with a different tool, providing feedback for teammates, and practice spooky voices for Halloween / team 1-on-1 purposes.

  • 58: I Love Little Notebooks

    October 4th, 2018  |  38 mins 12 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle discuss disrupting a good flow state, quitting coffee, balancing support & client work, and negotiating a healthy work/life balance.

  • 57: Summit Shenanigans

    September 20th, 2018  |  34 mins 46 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle record in person (for the first time ever!) as thoughtbot gathers for our annual Summer Summit, and discuss the language around design / development, switch interviews, opinions about post-it notes, and the point of design sprints.

  • 56: From Entomology to Etymology

    September 6th, 2018  |  39 mins 6 secs

    Dawn & Sam take the reigns this week and discuss designing filter systems, World Emoji Day, a11y in Emoji, and how 'design goals' should merge with 'business goals'.

  • 55: Hired to Help (Robert Indries)

    July 26th, 2018  |  35 mins 51 secs

    Jaclyn and Kyle are joined by Robert Indries of DG Studio to discuss applying design principles to other industries, deadlines (and procrastination), as well as the importance and difficulty of communication.

  • 54: Solutionize: Test the App, Not the User

    July 6th, 2018  |  33 mins 26 secs

    Sameera Kapila, a designer from thoughtbot Austin, joins Kyle to talk about prototype user testing, being wary of leading questions, challenging assumptions, and ways to take action on your findings.

  • 53: BAM! Here's Your App!

    May 23rd, 2018  |  25 mins 57 secs

    This week we discuss the importance of keeping a tight feedback loop on communication, and allowing time for experimentation & validation. Also, are retro notes helpful?

  • 52: Kyle's Think Hut™

    May 2nd, 2018  |  31 mins 43 secs

    Dealing with React Native, designing email templates for Outlook, "Designer News", and combating distraction.

  • 51: Batman's Fanny Pack

    April 18th, 2018  |  30 mins 40 secs

    This week, we discuss approaches to prototypes in User Testing, Sharpie preferences, how Batman arrived at the final design of his utility belt, and defining thoughtbot's design values.

  • 50: Immersed in Chaos

    April 4th, 2018  |  34 mins 41 secs

    While recovering from SxSW Kyle & Jaclyn discuss design experiences in day-to-day life, and surviving conferences / networking events.

  • 49: Food for Thought

    March 21st, 2018  |  37 mins 42 secs

    Kyle & Jaclyn discuss weather apps, maintaining focus in User Interviews, tips for managing frequent contexting switching, and documentation during a design sprint.

  • 48: Remove Thy Bias

    March 2nd, 2018  |  29 mins 11 secs

    Jaclyn & Kyle catch up and chat about user testing, and empathizing with user-problems you haven't personally experienced.

    Other tangents include: sleep, traveling to NYC, the weather, spelling & pluralization techniques, the annoyance of advertisements, Netflix confessions, misadventures with torrenting, Kyle's new voice-acting career, and motivational speaking.